A Woman Pretended to be a Man And Dated 30 Women. Here's What She Found… (Fascinating!)

0:00 Life is just hard, as I talked about in a recent episode, the Strength and Honor Protocol. We are put on this earth, in my opinion, to develop, so if it were easy, that would be counterproductive to the actual point of why we're here. We are here to suffer and to rise above. You are here to make yourself better. Welcome to the Unapologetic Man Podcast, the only podcast that's all about self-improvement, confidence, success, women, and being a man without making any apologies for it. What is up, boys?

0:38 Thank you for tuning in to another episode of the UMP. And today's episode, boys, is really interesting. It's a really deep dive into what it means to be a man. There was a woman who pretended to be a man, and she dated 30 men, and her results will shock you. Actually, it probably won't shock you too much, but I think it's going to further elaborate what we already know about women, what we already know about how difficult it is to be a man in the dating space, and honestly, man, how difficult it is to be a man overall.

1:09 Because she herself said, women live a privileged life. Now, whether or not I agree with that, I'm going to reveal that at the end of the show. But what she went through was an 18-month journey where she pretended to be a man. She joined some men's groups, she tried to approach and attract women, she went on 30 dates, and then eventually she went to a men's retreat, all of which had her conclude that being a man ain't so easy. And this is why I have this podcast.

1:37 This is why I support guys like you, is because being a man is very fucking difficult. Just being on this earth is difficult. Frankly, I think it's difficult to be a woman too. There is one outlier scenario where I think it's easier to be a woman, and I'll talk about that. But life is difficult, right? Whether you're a man or a woman. But what she realized is that being a man is exceptionally difficult. And you guys have it harder than most women understand, and we are going to get into all that today.

2:03 Gentlemen, you've obviously noticed at the beginning of many of my recent episodes, I've been putting little clips of clients from my three-month coaching program touting how effective the program actually is. There's nothing better than social proof. There's nothing better than real men showing their own experience, showing their own success, saying things like, dude, I feel like my brain is brand new, saying things like, I've never had this many hot women in my life, and saying things like, your program completely changed my life. That's because, boys, I'm going to be completely honest with you, I feel like I have a once-in-a-generational program to turn you into a girl magnet.

2:40 Even if you're struggling completely with women, I do it for guy after guy after guy, time after time after time. 95% of my clients get the success that they hired me for. The differentiating factor, those who do the work and those who do not. And I make the process very fucking easy for my men. I'm basically pointing you up the mountain, giving you a Sherpa who's carrying all your luggage and all your tents and all your water and everything else, and all you have to do is dress up like you're about to go to Olive Garden and walk up to the summit.

3:11 That's how easy I make it for my guys. All you have to do is show up, and I will drag your ass across the finish line, kicking and screaming if I have to, and that's why I have the success rates that I do. So, after hearing all those testimonials, after seeing all the video testimonials, testimonials on my website and the 300 plus written testimonials I have on my very sales page, and you want to come talk to us, all you have to do is click the link in the description below.

3:35 The first link, the link at the very top, apply for Mark's three-month coaching program, and you and I will talk. All right, boys, we have a lot of interesting things to talk about in this one, so let's get into it. So, this woman's name was Nora Vincent, and she was a gay woman who wanted to experience what it was like to be a man. So, she got dressed up as a man, took on this ulterior identity, and began an 18-month experience, which, by the way, ended with her taking her own life, and I'm going to discuss that at the end of the episode.

4:04 So, in the beginning, she just joined a men's bowling league, thinking that she was going to go into this bowling league, and guys were going to be talking about testicles, vaginas, and how many girls they want to fuck, but what she realized is that men actually aren't as slimy as many women perceive us to be, as you guys know. Men are actually very compassionate. Men are actually very friendly. They're inviting, and what occurred to her is that many times, men are actually more kind than women are, because, and this is in her own words, women can be fucking brutal.

4:35 They talk shit about each other. They gossip all the time, and especially in the dating space, as you guys know, women can be very, very malicious. So, she joins this bowling club. They're all getting along, and one thing she realized, and I always tell this to my clients, when guys mess with each other, when they insult each other and they bust each other's chops, that actually comes from kindness. It actually comes from love. I always rip on my clients in the coaching program, jokingly, of course, saying things like, oh, yeah, Brian loves to get girls in the port-a-potty, seduce them, and finger blast their butthole until they come, and I'm just fucking with them.

5:11 And I always tell my clients, I'm like, yo, if I fuck with you, it's because I like you. And this is the way men show affection. Women, on the other hand, as we know, are very tender. They say sweet nothings to each other, support each other. We like to rip on each other. And this is what Nora found, saying that her name was Ned, pretending she was a dude, when she joined the bowling league. The guys were really cool. They supported each other. And what she realized is that men like to talk about things.

5:38 Women like to talk about people. Furthermore, and this didn't come from her, this was a different insight that I've heard from a different coach. He said men like to talk shoulder-to-shoulder, basically facing something. Like both of you are facing a car and talking about that car and how you're going to fix it. Women like to talk face-to-face. So it's a slight difference, but men are often accused of not being compassionate, not loving each other and getting each other's backs. What she realized is that that notion is completely and utterly incorrect.

6:09 Men are actually oftentimes more compassionate than women are. And it reminds me of the silverback gorilla who leads the gorilla tribe. That gorilla is actually the most empathetic, the most compassionate. He's the first one who's going to break up a fight. He's the first one who's going to go nurture the child gorilla who fell out of the tree and hurt his leg. Men are often mislabeled as being toxic because we talk shit to each other. Women seeing this and thinking that it comes from rage, but it actually comes from love.

6:39 So finally, she reveals herself as a woman to all these men and they were all cool with it. They're like, ah, yeah, no worries. Keep bowling with us. It's chill. And they were hugging it out and it was no big deal. So with that part of her experiment, she concluded that men are actually way more compassionate than women give them credit for. They're very inviting. They're very kind. And the way that they relate to each other is they rip on each other. Now we get into approaching women.

7:04 So first thing I want to say is, this was a woman pretending to be a man. And even though she was very masculine for being a woman, she was not very masculine when she was pretending to be a man. In fact, and I watched videos of her, she was very feminine as a man. Oftentimes people would think she was a gay man because she was a little effeminate. So we have to keep that in our back pocket as we listen to these results because masculinity is what most women are attracted to.

7:31 Most healthy, heterosexual, feminine women are going to be attracted to a masculine man who can lead her. So when you get a woman who dresses up like a man and goes approaches women, she's probably going to get blown out. And what do you think happened, bro? That's right. She got blown out so hard, the fake mustache on her face blew off when the fucking concussion hit. She didn't actually wear a fake mustache, but you get the joke. She was blown out time after time after time.

7:58 And these chicks were brutal to this woman pretending to be a man, Ned. So she goes up and she tries to talk to chicks at a bar and she keeps getting rejected. And one time she actually admitted to the woman, she's like, you know what? This was an experiment. There's actually cameras over there. I'm actually a woman. And then the woman who was mean to her started apologizing, being like, I'm sorry I was so mean to you. But guys, this clues us in into several things.

8:25 First of all, female psychology. Women are going to be mean to you when you are incongruent. Meaning when you walk up as a man, as Nora did, pretending she's this dude, Ned, she walked up pretending to be a man, but she was effeminate. And women pick up on this. We have to understand that women are little radar systems. If you are pretending to be confident, if you are pretending to be a girl magnet, but deep inside your head, you don't really feel that way, you're going to telegraph that in your tonality, in your body language, and you're going to get yourself blown out.

8:56 So she approaches, she's effeminate. They shit test her. Or in my coaching, I call it frame check. Say mean things like, why are you talking to me? Or why are you wearing those glasses? Or you are a little bit effeminate. And unless she's able to flip that frame and come back with a rebuttal, she's going to get blown out. So what would you say if someone's like, oh, you're a little bit too effeminate for me? You would misinterpret, which is a frame control reversal, and say, ah, I appreciate that.

9:24 I'm really trying to get in touch with my feminine side. So thanks for the compliment. You're misinterpreting what she said, reframing it to look at the picture in the frame, which you have chosen, and you look at it the way you want to, that would have passed that frame check. But because Nora, and guys, I'm just going to call her an ed from here for this fucking difficult to keep track of the genders. It's like going to Chiba Hut and trying to walk into the all gender bathroom.

9:48 And you're like, well, like, am I allowed to be in here? Because I have a penis and I don't pretend I'm a woman half the time. And I'm a dog the other half the time. So can I go in here? Fucking ridiculous. How 0.01% of the population is dictating how the other 99.999% have to choose our pronouns. Absolute ridiculousness. So the problem that happened with Ned approaching these chicks is she was too feminine. Women would shit test her, him, what the fuck? And then she wouldn't have the correct rebuttal.

10:19 So she kept getting blown out time and time again. And when she revealed herself as a woman to the woman who blew her out, the woman who blew her out is like, I'm so sorry I was mean to you. Because chicks will be mean to you without even really consciously knowing it. And this is female psychology 101. You're going to be incongruent or you're going to come up a little bit wrong or your voice is not going to be perfect, which is okay. We all accept that.

10:43 We're all learning. And they're going to shit test you. They're going to be mean to you to see if you have the balls to be able to flip the frame on them. Now, even as effeminate as Ned was, had she flipped the frame correctly on the girl and led her to where she wanted to be led, she probably could have pulled numbers. In my opinion, it was a lack of game, frame, and obviously she was a fucking chick in a man's body. And she, meaning Nora, the girl pretending to be the dude Ned, God, this is hard to talk about, even said, I thought women wanted a woman in a man's body.

11:17 But what I realized is that women actually want masculine men. And as a dating coach for men, I had to laugh. I was like, yeah, obviously, dude. This is why I have fucking 670 episodes teaching dudes how to be more masculine, how to be more confident. Because when you go up with these incongruencies, you're going to get blown out, just like Ned did. Blown out so hard, the fake penis she was wearing blew out of her pants when the concussion hit. All right, the next phase of her experiment was going on 30 dates with 30 different chicks off the dating apps.

11:47 And here's the thing that a lot of you guys do. And I know you do it. You can't hide from me. You hide behind the dating apps because you're too afraid to approach or you don't know what to say. You don't have the confidence and you're afraid that you too are going to get blown out so hard it's going to knock the mustache off your best friend's face. But that's why I'm here to teach you how to successfully approach women even if you're a fucking zero right now.

12:10 Because that's what I do. I have a 10-magnet production facility where I load you in the front and you come out attracting women on command with the ability to approach successfully not having to hide behind the dating apps as I know a lot of you guys do. And let's be honest, bro. Are you going to meet a solid 10 off the dating apps? Are you going to meet your dream woman, the girl who you're proud to introduce to your brother, your mom, and your sisters, and your family?

12:33 Come on, bro. Get realistic. The hottest, highest quality chicks are not found on dating apps. So while I do teach dating app game big time and I have templates that will blow your mind, we don't rely on them. We use them as supplements to get you trained up, to get you the skill set so that you can go get a real 10, which happens in real fucking life. You need the confidence. You need the congruence. You need NLP to remap the bullshit inside your head. That's exactly what I do.

13:04 So she hides behind the dating apps, pretends she's this dude named Ned, and goes on 30 fucking dates. And it was funny because the interviewer is like, did you have any fun during those dates? And she's like, not really, right? Because it's painful. It's a job interview. And what she said is, I felt like I was under all this pressure to perform. I felt like I had to like prove myself to these chicks. And that's the frame that women are going to try to impose on you.

13:31 But what we do in my program is we flip the frame and we say, you're the one submitting the application. And we give value upon value upon value, thus proving that, yes, we are an attractive, viable suitor for you. But I'm not even suiting you. You're suiting me. That's the frame. And because we give so much value, we don't have to explain ourselves. The second you explain yourself to a woman, you're getting blown the fuck out. Just like Ned did. Every day was horrible. She had a horrible time pretending she was a man.

14:05 She realized, and this is other experiments that other women have done pretending to be men on the dating apps. She realized that the dating apps are heavily skewed against men. So what's the solution? I have the solution. Abundance, abundance, abundance. I'm going to get you talking to so many fucking girls that that one five on the dating app who looks like Jabba the Hutt with a wig on it and lipstick on it isn't asking you, Han Solo, how tall are you? You're like, Chick, kick rocks with your head down.

14:34 I'm not even talking to you. I have so many girls from Mark's top of funnel plans, from Mark's how to meet a myriad of different women who are attracted to you and throwing themselves at you because we stack value at the forefront. This is what we do in this program. We make you attractive. We make you the prize. So apply right now, you idiot, and we will talk. My girlfriend the other day was listening to my podcast and she's like, how the fuck are you so successful when you yell at your listeners calling them idiots yet they still apply to your program?

15:05 And I'm like, because that's what men do. We fuck with each other. When I call you an idiot, you know I'm joking. You know it's all love, bro. I got your back. And it's because I care about you that I'm going to get you that success. Yes, men can care about other men as Ned found out in her bowling group. So she goes on these 30 dates. They all go horrible. She realizes, wow, men have it way more difficult than women do in the dating space. And it's true.

15:31 It's stacked in the favor of women. But we flip that frame, gentlemen, and I'll tell you this. While all other guys are struggling in the dating space, we flip the frame so that we become the infinitesimally small percentage that actually rewrites the rules and we get girls chasing us. Because as I always say, 20% of the men get 80% of the women. Once you realize that calibration, once you know how to show women that you're of that 20%, then it becomes a pussy avalanche. And I hate to be crude, but that's how it is.

16:03 It's either feast or famine. You get either tons of it or you get zero of it. My job is to get you tons of it. What would it be like, brother, if you had a different girl in your bed every night of the week that you want to have a girl over? Sexy-ass body riding on top of you and me personally, I like the little belly button rings and the perky tits. Every night you want it, I can get that for you. It's going to take work.

16:26 It's going to take discipline. It's going to take moving into your fucking masculinity like a man. It's going to take you stepping up rather than punking down, but I'm your Sherpa, bro-migo. I'm going to pack all that bullshit on my back, show you up the mountain. All you got to do is get dressed up like you're going to the Olive Garden tonight and fucking hike up that hill. I will show you and take you to the top. Why you haven't applied yet is beyond me. And some of you may be getting butthurt because I tout my program so much.

16:53 Gentlemen, why do you think I touted so much? Because I believe in myself. I'm not afraid to self-promote. I'm not afraid to be confident in what I do. And these are attractive qualities, the same qualities I want to instill in you. So if you're questioning why I talk about my program and brag about it so much, I have to question how you feel about yourself. Because if you feel what I'm doing is wrong, you clearly feel wrong about touting those things that are great about you.

17:18 You should be telling the whole world how great you are, brother. And that's the belief I want to put in you because that belief attracts women. So finally, Ned goes to a men's retreat in like Switzerland or some shit. And she goes to this men's retreat and what she realizes a lot of men are really angry. They're really angry at women, they're really angry at society, they're angry at the hand they've been dealt. How many of you brothers, and I'm with you on this one, are fucking angry?

17:47 Angry about what life has served you and perhaps more importantly, especially in this context, angry about how difficult it's been on you in the dating realm. Yeah, we get angry because we're not taught from childhood how to express our emotions in healthy ways. Guys will bottle it up, they'll push it down, and then, as often happens, they'll just completely explode. Road rage, domestic violence, even school shootings, it's all that suppressed rage that men have because it's fucking hard to be a man, especially a man who's not born confident or, and this is the case for many of you guys, have had a childhood where somebody else fucked you up.

18:27 Somebody else gave you their bad belief systems before you could defend yourself from it. And now you're hitting print on a printer, printing out the same abysmal results, and you're angry about it. I get it, brother. I had that anger too. Here's what you need to do with anger. You need to channel it into a positive means. Get in the gym. Get into education. Listen to podcasts like this one, which is what you're doing. And yeah, even get into a coaching program where I'm gonna push you to become the next best version of yourself so you can achieve your desires, thus bringing down your anger and bringing up your happiness.

19:00 Hey, listen, it's tough to be a man, but as I always say, you either got a man up or punk down. And if you punk down, all you have for yourself is misery waiting. As Ned found out when he, she, or whatever went to the men's retreat. So she went to the men's retreat, realized men are really angry, but they didn't actually want to hurt women. They were just talking about it. They were just talking about their frustrations. That's why I'm here, is to remedy those frustrations because no one's gonna help you unless you reach out for help.

19:29 And you're in the water drowning and my hand's reaching out of the boat, brother, and I want to bring you into the boat and hike you up the mountain as your seduction sherpa, which I just thought of. I'm your seduction sherpa, bro. Let me hike you up that mountain. So she goes to the men's retreat and here's where it kind of gets dark. She starts getting depressed because she doesn't know really what her identity is. 18 months pretending to be a man when you're actually a woman.

19:53 She's also gay. She's having identity crisis. So eventually it ends with her suicide, an assisted suicide that actually took place in Switzerland. Did you guys know this shit? They will help you commit suicide in Switzerland? What? I didn't even know about that. So apparently she did do that and she, at the end of her life, basically said what I alluded to at the beginning of the show. Women are privileged. Now, I don't necessarily agree with that. I have a lot of girlfriends. I have a daughter.

20:24 I have a woman who I deeply love and who I know on the deepest intimate level. Her life's hard, bro. And she is attractive and she is intelligent. Life is just hard as I talked about in a recent episode, the strength and honor protocol. We are put on this earth, in my opinion, to develop. So if it were easy, that would be counterproductive to the actual point of why we're here. We are here to suffer and to rise above. You are here to make yourself better, which again is another reason I want you to come into my program so we can get you to that top tier in the quickest, easiest, least painful way possible.

20:59 So she gets depressed and she unfortunately ended her life with the assistance of someone. I can't even believe that's actually true, but that's how she ended her life and she ended it once again saying that women are privileged, which I disagree with, but there is one instance in which I agree with that. Hot women are privileged. Gorgeous women are privileged. They have an easier life than the rest of us. I'm not saying it's an easy life. I'm saying it's easier. They get the benefit of the doubt.

21:28 They get open doors for them. They can literally just meet a dude who's going to take care of them. How many of you guys struggle with money or worry about your future? If you were like a raging hot chick, you could just go get a dude to take care of you for the rest of your life. Now, obviously, you'll be lacking the intimacy you want. You'll be lacking the true champion that you want in many cases. So there's always challenges, but ultimately, we all have a difficult, even hot chicks.

21:54 They just have it a little bit easier. I've seen it. My friend Ashley, she's a fucking 10, bro. She's so hot. She gets so much shit thrown at her. Her reality and her perception of how things actually are is like psychotic mode. She doesn't even fucking get it. And Ashley, I know you're listening and you know I think this is about you, girl. It's like you live in a different reality. You're like on a parallel universe and this is why hot girls will often be perceived as psychotic because they're just in a different reality.

22:23 So the conclusion of Ned was this. Being a man is fucking hard. The dating space is hard. Getting on the dating apps is hard. Going on dates is hard. And men have a lot of rage, but it's not like they hate women. They want to protect women. They want to love women. But oftentimes women are the mean ones, which Ned said as well. They are brutal and they will frame check your ass. So what's the solution? You know what I'm going to say, man? You got to work on yourself.

22:50 You need to become the best version of yourself so you can circumvent all that bullshit that most guys are dealing with on the dating apps thinking they're going to meet their dream woman on Tinder. It's like, come on, bro. Up yourself so you up your results. And I have the program to do that for you. In my opinion, a once-in-a-generation program that mixes NLP with the tactical aspect. And you guys have heard my tactical shit. You know how good it is. And this podcast is just a sample of the fucking tier one gold that I drop in the laps of my clients.

23:23 Not to mention the brain remapping with NLP. The secret ingredient that differentiates me from all other dating coaches. I fix what's going on inside here. The most important thing. So guys, I do appreciate you listening. And I want to let you know, man, I love you, brothers. I have compassion for you. I know you're going through a hard time. And I respect you because you're a fucking warrior. The trick, of course, is for you to believe it and for you to know that you're the prize in the dating space.

23:51 You're the hot chick. She's the one submitting the application. You're the one being pursued. Guys, I do appreciate you listening. I hope you have a great week filled with happiness. Good luck and joy. You guys are fucking champions. I care about you. I want you to succeed and I'd love to meet you. So put in your application right now and I will see you in the next episode. So-da! I'll see you in the next episode.

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