Episode 654 · April 3, 2025 · 23 min
How to Friendzone a Girl And Use Her to Attract Much Hotter Girls (PIVOTS & PRESELECTION)
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If you have 10 girlfriends, those 10 girlfriends will get you thousands of other girls. Again, it's fishing poles. What's better, dude, 10 fish in the bucket or 10 fishing poles all around the lake with the freaking worm on the end of them in the water waiting to catch you more fish. Welcome to the Unapologetic Man Podcast. The only podcast that's all about self-improvement, confidence, success, women, and being a man without making any apologies for it. What is up, yo champions? Thank you for tuning in to another episode of the UMP.
Happy Thursday. I hope the week's been treating you well. And today, boys, we are going to talk about how to use a girl and friendzone her in order to get much harder girls. This is also known as pre-selection. Let me tell you a little statistic that you may not believe. If you want to get a 9 or a 10, brother, you almost always have to have girls in your life to begin with. And you almost always have to have that 9 or 10. See you with other girls. See that other girls want to be around you.
And more importantly, see that those girls are attracted to you. And this is why I say all the time, you should friendzone girls. And you should absolutely have girls with you, if possible, when you go to the nightclubs, when you go out to parties or events or anything like that. And if possible, have them on your Instagram page. This thing pre-selection is so unbelievably powerful because it's a cognitive shortcut. You know when you're standing at a traffic light and you're kind of like looking at your cell phone and there's a bunch of people around you and they all start walking and you just assume that the light turned green.
And when it says walk, so you start walking too, that's how the human mind works where we like cognitive shortcuts. So women have been literally anthropologically created to have a cognitive shortcut in the way where if you have girls around you already, they will become more attracted to you. The harder the girls you have around you, the more attractive you become. If I take you and I send you into a nightclub all by yourself, you're going to have a certain level of attractiveness based on the way you're dressed, your mannerisms, your behavior, your tonality, everything I talk about in this podcast.
But if I took that exact same you, we don't change anything about you other than I put two hot girls on your arm, your attractiveness to women will literally 10x. You will literally be 10x more attractive to other women when you go into a nightclub with girls on your arm. So we have to understand that using friend-zoned girls, also known as pivots in the seduction community, is not only exceptionally powerful, but it's almost necessary if you really want to get hotter girls. So a lot of you guys are okay with sixes and sevens, and that's fine.
You don't really need a pivot. They do help quite a bit. But in my opinion, why not friend-zone all those sixes and sevens and use them? And I hate the word use. I kind of put that in the title as clickbait. It's not really use. It's leverage them to get yourself some hotter girls. As I always say, boys, you should be playing chess, not checkers. Rather than going to nightclubs and standing on the long-ass lines, paying the covers, going inside and trying to open girls where you're like this low-value dude who has no social proof with him nor any pre-selection with him, why not stack the chips in our favor?
If you show up to a nightclub with like five girlfriends, just for an example, if you show up to a nightclub with five girlfriends, you are probably not going to have to even wait in line. You're probably not going to have to pay cover. They may even give you a table and bottle service sometimes, depending on how hot the girls are. And every single girl in that nightclub is going to get attracted to you simply because you have girls with you. Now, you may be asking, well, what if the girls are unattractive?
What if all the girls with me are sixes and sevens and the only girls I can friend zone look like canyon mules, sea donkeys, and trailer swifts? Well, I'll tell you this. It's better to have an unattractive girl or girls with you than it is for you to be alone. I would rather go to a nightclub with an unattractive girl than alone because even an unattractive girl will raise my value. Here's what women think, or at least what they subconsciously think when they see you with a girl.
They think to themselves, okay, this dude at least must be trustworthy. He must be charismatic enough for that girl to want to hang out with him, and he must be somewhat of a normal dude, whereas if you go into a bar or a nightclub or any other social event alone, you don't have that pre-selection. Pre-selection, look at that word. Pre, meaning before, selection, meaning selected. You have been pre-selected by this girl you're with, and therefore you have social proof. They know you can be trusted. They know you're probably charismatic.
They know you're fun to hang out with, so they immediately like you. Now, it goes without saying, the harder the girl is who's with you, the higher your perceived value is. So again, if I put a 10 on your arms and you walked into a nightclub, you are literally getting every single girl attracted to you because those girls are thinking, oh, that 10 likes him. That 10 trusts him. He was able to earn that 10's time. That raises your value because people intrinsically understand that a 10's time is very valuable.
Everybody's fighting for it. And if you get it, your value goes up. So now we understand the value of friend zoning girls and using them. Once again, I don't like that word. I like leveraging them to get other girls. So how do we do this? First and foremost, you have to, from the very beginning, call them a friend. And I talk about this all the time in this podcast because friend zoning girls is, in my opinion, the thing you should do with pretty much all women, even those you want to sleep with.
Because when you friend zone them and push them away, they're going to want you more. You don't have to curtail how valuable you are. You don't have to curtail your attraction building techniques to get them attracted to you. All you're doing in the beginning is giving them value, showing pre-selection in other ways, which I'm going to explain. They get attracted to you, but it's your choice as to whether or not you want to act on it. So in the beginning, I friend zone everybody. I call all girls a friend, even in the first conversation when I am perhaps intending to get her number, I'll say, you know what?
You and I can't be friends because of X, Y, Z thing, which of course goes into the concept of breaking rapport, another attraction building technique I teach. But by friend zoning them, you have the option to either use them, or I should say leverage them as a pivot or to pursue them further if and when they get attracted to you. So if you friend zone a girl, just because she's attracted to you, does that mean you have to pursue her in a romantic way? Or does it mean you still can friend zone her because ultimately it's up to you?
The obvious answer is the second one. It's your choice, dude. So it's actually good to have girlfriends who are attracted to you. In fact, that's what I prefer. Because when you walk in with a pivot and the other girls can see that the pivot is attracted to you and they can see it just by the way that pivot looks at you, you become even more attractive. So the way to friend zone girls is to use the F word and basically don't hit on them, which is what I always say in my coaching.
I always say when you first go in, you want to give value, you want to control the frame, you want to bust her chops, crack her up, tell stories, give all this attraction building content, but don't hit on her. What is hitting on her? Hitting on her is showing your interest, taking things sexual, stating that you like her for more than a friend. But if initially you only treat her as a friend, yet still using all the attraction building gambits I use outside, of course, of sexual tension, outside, of course, of physical escalations and things like that, she can still become your friend without you owing her anything.
She can still become attracted to you without you having to act on it. You don't have to fuck her. You don't have to kiss her. You don't have to touch her beyond shaking her hand. That's your choice. So in the beginning, you should friend zone all girls, use all of them for pivots, because even a pivot, and listen closely, even a pivot who you leverage to get the hotter girls attracted to you, you'll still have the option to hook up with her if you really want to, if of course she gets attracted to you.
So when you first meet a girl, you friend zone her. You call her a friend. You perhaps invite her out to parties or get-sgethers or nightclubs with other girls. You have friend zone. Therein lies your choice because you are leveraging all these pivots to get other girls attracted to you to whom you also friend zone. Now you're surrounded by a bunch of girls who you consider friends. They're probably largely attracted to you because you have women in your life already, right? As I said, when you're pre-selected, your attractiveness to women goes up by literally 10x.
So now you're surrounded with friends, girls who you perceive as friends, but they're all pretty much attracted to you and now you have sexual choice. Actually, I want to turn that pivot into a girl who I'm having sex with. But most of the times, when you turn a girl into a pivot, it's because she's a 6 or a 7, right? Then you use her to go get the 8s or the 9s. You bring her in the nightclub. You go approach girls with her on your arm, which I'm going to talk about in a second.
Tell her to get lost. You yank that girl's number, call her a friend, maybe hang out with her with other girls, and then you're like, okay, I like this chick. Then you have the option to hook up with that girl. Now, when it comes to meeting new girls, all you have to do in order to turn them into a friend is make it event-based. And when I say event-based, I mean something where you can invite a bunch of different girls to attend, such as a barbecue, such as a pregame party at your house, such as a concert that you and your friends, listen to my words, all your friends are going to and she should come.
In fact, why don't you bring one of your girlfriends with you? We're going to have a great time. It's going to be awesome. Come on. We're friends. Now, she's kind of thinking, well, is he into me or does he just want to be friends? I don't know because he has all these other girlfriends. Maybe I am just a friend. Oh, man, I'm kind of feeling attracted to him. He's got all these girls with him. Who does he like? Does he like me? Ooh, I'm jealous of that one girl because she's real pretty.
Now, you have jealously plot lines. All the pivots are basically getting attracted to you and it's your choice as to who you either want to keep as a friend or who you want to sexually escalate with. Now, that begs the question, well, what if a girl gets really attracted to me and she gets mad? If a girl gets attracted to you who you friend zone and she gets butthurt about it, what would a girl do in that situation if she had a dude friend who got butthurt at her?
She would tell him like, Brian, you're overreacting. What are you talking about? I was never going to hook up with you. I never flirted with you. Yeah, we have a great time. But what are you doing? You're kind of scaring me, Brian. And Brian's like, oh, shit. No, I'm sorry. I was just, you know, I got a little emotional. But it's cool. We could just be friends. You do the same thing to girls. If you friend zone a girl, use her as a pivot and she gets butthurt, you can call her out and be like, dude, why are you getting butthurt?
Like, we never dated. We never hooked up, right? Like, you don't really have a right to do this. Meanwhile, you're getting other girls. It's okay if she's jealous. In fact, and I hate to say this, it's kind of manipulative, but I'm just being honest. This is the way it works, boys. Don't hate the messenger. Hate the fucking game. This is the way it works. If she gets jealous, it's kind of a good thing, dude. Because she's more attracted to you and other girls can see that.
So don't get it twisted. You want girlfriends who are attracted to you. You want every single woman out there attracted to you. But you're not just blatantly hitting on girls. We don't hit on girls until they're attracted and only when we have decided that they make the cut. So you go into social events with girls who you friend zone and the way to friend zone them is to call them a friend in the beginning, invite them out to do something social with you and your other friends, just like you would a normal friend.
Maybe you guys even hang out sometimes. Like you guys both like pickleball or some shit. And you're like, hey, let's go to Lifetime and play some pickleball. Okay, cool. You're not hitting on her. She's a friend. And you call her a friend. You say, hey, buddy. You say, hey, friend. And you fuck with her. You pick your nose in front of her. You throw your leg up on her shoulder and fart. Treat her like a friend. And if you're like, oh, I would never fart in front of a girl.
Go listen to my episode that I recorded like a year ago called Why You Should Fart in Front of Girls. And that will explain why you should do shit that is quote unquote unattractive because it shows you don't care. And it further puts them in the friend zone. Now, I alluded to earlier. Let's say you go to a party, a social event, a get-together, a dinner date with a bunch of different people, a nightclub, a bar, whatever it is, and you want to use, again, leverage this girl to go meet another girl.
Here's how you do it. You may think the strategy should be like this. You tell your friend Sarah, who you friend zone, and it's okay. She may be a little bit attracted to you. She may get butthurt by this, but it's okay. You say, hey, Sarah, go up to that girl and talk to her about me. Build me up and then bring her over here. You think that's a good play, but honestly, it's the worst play. That girl, that pivot who you're leveraging should not say a fucking word because they will blow you out of the water by trying to build you up.
Let me ask you this. If you and I go out together and I approach a girl and I build you up bragging about you, trying to say how great you are, does it make you look good or does it make you look bad? That's right. It makes you look bad because she's thinking, why couldn't he have approached me himself? So what you do instead is you say, Sarah, come on, let's go meet some people. You walk around and you open. You talk. You introduce Sarah. And then when you bump her, she gets lost and goes back to your friends.
Now the set is broken open. And I'll tell you this, boys, every single set I have opened with a hot girl on my arm or better yet, two different girls has never once rejected me. Never once. Every single set I've ever approached with girls on my arms has opened. I've never once been rejected. So let's say I go up, I'm talking, we're bullshitting. I tell the girls to get lost. Now it's just me and the one girl. And because I've shown pre-selection, I'm already head and shoulders where I would have been if I just approached her alone.
Now, another thing you can do is simply do a lap with a couple girls on your arm, even one girl. And again, even if it's not an attractive girl, it's still a girl, which shows other girls that you're pre-selected. You just walk around the nightclub, the bar, the venue, the restaurant, the party, the get together, wherever you're going. You just do a lap, quick lap, and then you can open people without that girl. Now, again, what if she gets butthurt? Well, Mark, she's going to get attracted to me.
She's going to get butthurt. You simply call her out and say, dude, I don't like you like that. I have a great time with you. You're awesome. You're so fun. Do you think you can keep coming out with me and not get mad at me like this again? She'll usually say yes. And listen to this, boys. How many guys do you think are out there that are orbiters of a girl? And an orbiter is basically a guy who likes a girl and he's orbiting her planet, waiting to get in with her.
How many of those guys have tried to get in with her and she said, no, I'm not into you that way, yet he still sticks around? 99% of them. Why? Because he still thinks he has a chance. Same thing with girls. So if you friends own a girl, you meet her at a nightclub, let's say, and you're like, hey, you're a cool friend. I like you. Why don't you toss me your number? Me and my other friends go out a lot. You can come out with us.
Making it very clear she's just a friend and she gets attracted to you and you take her to the nightclubs and you use her as a pivot to meet other girls. Then she gets mad at you. You have a perfect reason to say, dude, slow your roll. I never once gave you any impression that we would be taking this to that level. I have girlfriends. I'm social. If you can't roll with that program, I get it. I'm going to be super bummed to lose you, but I just see you as a friend.
And when you make her a friend, you are going to leverage her to get way more girls than you would have gotten if you just hooked up with her. So in my opinion, a seven should always be turned into a friend because it's like a fishing pole. A seven's a fish. Here's the fish, bro. Eat it up at the campfire. You're done. A freaking seven made into a friend is a fishing pole to catch much bigger fish that you can continuously eat. It's a continuously generating stream of hot girls just based off making her a friend.
So in some cases, I tell my clients, guys, don't even try to get girls right now. Just try to build a social circle of girls. And again, it's best based around hobbies. Then you will go to a party, a nightclub, a bar, wherever it is with said girls, treat them well, take them out. I do suggest buying them drinks. It's a little bit different than like trying to date a girl because you want to keep them happy and then just simply do a lap with them and or approach girls with them on your arm.
Tell them to get lost once it's hooked and you're in like Flynn, dude. I had a client once who went out and did this and he surrounded himself with about 10 different girls. Well, he would always tell me about it. And I was like, dude, send me a picture. So one day he sends me a picture of him in the middle of all these chicks and they're all sitting at this like long bench thing. And these chicks were all fucking hideous, fat ones, ugly ones, midgets, chicks with peg legs, bald chicks, acne laden chicks.
And I was like, oh, my hell, dude. I'm like, how is that working for you, bro? He's like, bro, it's just like a girl magnet, dude. I get all the chicks, which further establishes my point that they don't have to be banging in order for you to leverage them. But the way you work it, and he eventually did this is first you start with some girls that are unattractive, could even be your cousin, your sister, some girlfriend from work that you guys are really cool with.
And you tell her about this pre-selection thing, ask her to help you out with it. They can be unattractive in the beginning. You use them to get better pivots. Then you use those pivots to get better pivots. Then once you got those pivots in place, you use them, or I should say leverage once again, to get hotter girls. Then you bring those hot girls into the fold. Suddenly you're upgrading. Now you're surrounded with hot chicks. Some chicks, you're like, I will never fuck them. I don't care what happens.
I have a couple friends, boys. I'm going to be honest with you. That I'd like to hit, dude. There's a couple girls like, Ashley, you know it, girl. You're fucking fine as fuck. I'd like to hit it, but I never will. First of all, because I'm committed to Marissa and I have more honor than a phalanx, the Spartans. I will never cheat on her. But secondly, because if I hook up with Ashley, it's done, dude. She's no longer a pivot. Now she's a girl I've hooked up with.
Now she kind of has the right to get butt hurt. And this is why it's difficult to turn a girl into a pivot who you've been dating and who you've already hooked up with. So if you meet a girl who's like a moped, fun to ride, but you don't want to be seen with her, you should control that red-helmeted warrior in your pants and say, nope, I'm not going to hook up with this girl. I'm going to immediately turn her into a friend and I'm going to control myself.
Yeah, I'd like to hit it like she has a nice ass or she's got some big DSLs, dick sucking lips. And you're like, goddamn, I just kind of want to hit it once or twice. But I know myself, dog, I'm going to fucking blow her out. Don't hook up with her. Don't touch her beyond her hand when you shake it or her hand when you give her a high five because you're going to blow yourself out. So can you turn a girl into a pivot who you've already hooked up with?
Not really, bro, especially if she really likes you because they get peanut butter and jealous. If you're socially savvy, as I know a lot of you guys are, and you hooked up and the vibe just really wasn't there, then yeah, sometimes you can turn them into pivots. But what you should do is unless you're like, dude, I really want to hook up with this girl, it's better to just put her in the pivot category. If you have 10 girlfriends, those 10 girlfriends will get you thousands of other girls.
Again, it's fishing poles. What's better, dude, 10 fish in the bucket or 10 fishing poles all around the lake with the freaking worm on the end of them in the water waiting to catch you more fish. You're going to be getting fish left and right, dude. You're going to have more buckets than you know what to do with. This is the way to play chess, not checkers. So the way to friend zone a girl is to call her a friend from the beginning. Friend zone her ass. Who cares if she gets attracted to you better if she does?
Don't hook up with her. Invite her out to a social event. Use her to approach other girls, but tell her, don't fucking talk, Amy. I don't want to hear one word out of you. Just stand there looking pretty. And then when I give you the old elbow of fellowship, kick rocks with your head down because the set is fucking hooked, leverage them in that way. And boys, the amount of women you are about to have in your life is going to blow your fucking mind when you use preselection, when you use pivots, when you friend zone girls and don't let them out of that friend zone jail just because you're horny one night and you want to get some of them dick sucking lips, control yourself, friend zone them, and only let girls into your life sexually who you don't want to use as future pivots and who legitimately have a chance with you or who you just like, you got to get it, bro.
You're like, I can't turn this girl into a friend. She's too fucking hot. Then go ahead and dip into it, but be advised turning her into a friend after you hit it is difficult. So the way I see it is these are the friends. These are the pivots over here. And these are the girls I'm going to hook up with over here. I might lose the girls I'm hooking up with. So I'm very careful about who I do that with, but I always maintain and be very careful with my army of pivots because they are going to get me even more girls and harder ones at that.
Pivot boys, pre-selection boys, friend zoning girls, boys, that's the way to fucking do it. So get out there and make some friends, build that social circle. It is going to get you laid with much harder girls than the pivots who you originally friend zoned because you could control yourself. Discipline boys, one of the most important things I could ever teach you. And I'm actually going to do a podcast about that this coming Monday. So stay tuned. It's called the DG rule. And this is one of the most powerful rules I could ever teach you.
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